23:42 <@Nuclear> ok paidia, kala itan arketa grapsame kodika, ante kairos na mathoume kamia texni, leo na gino patomatzis, ti lete? 23:42 <@Nuclear> i kalytera gidovoskos... exei kai prestiz 23:42 <@zafos> giati re ti egine ? 23:42 <@Da_Medron> tsagkarhs na gineis.. 23:42 <@zafos> eides kana real time radiosity ? :P 23:42 <@Nuclear> kala re de blepeis ti ginete? 23:42 <@Da_Medron> h petalwths 23:42 <@zafos> oxi ti ? 23:42 <@zafos> eixa pesei 23:42 <@Nuclear> to council of ministers ta egrapse ola sta paparia tou kai pernaei tis patentes 23:43 <@zafos> a nai 23:43 <@zafos> ontws 23:43 <@zafos> terma ta open kai ta free ? 23:43 < lompas> e kai ti egine 23:43 <@Nuclear> tora gia na ginoun allages i na aporifthei thelei treli ploiopsifia sto eyrokoinovoulio 23:43 <@Da_Medron> 8a patentarw to 1+1=2 magkes.. 23:43 <@Nuclear> koinos mallon ti gamisame 23:44 <@zafos> re nuc 23:44 <@zafos> usa pou pezoun patents tosa xronia 23:44 <@zafos> ti kanoun ? 23:44 <@Nuclear> e kai ti egine leei o allos... KSYPNA RE 23:44 <@Nuclear> zaf: tous gamane oi polyethnikes apo piso 23:44 <@Da_Medron> kai to x+1=(x+1) :) 23:44 <@zafos> Nuclear : enww me linux klp 23:44 <@Nuclear> ti linux edo milame gia universal krisi 23:44 <@zafos> enww usa to linux tosa xronia 23:44 < lompas> e kai ti egine lew kai to ennow 23:44 <@zafos> de mporei olo kai kapoies patentes 8a eixe 23:45 <@Da_Medron> ela mwre.. 8a kanoun ekei mia etairia pou 8a exei edra ton arh (opou den isxyei o nomos peri patentas) kai 8a ta katevazoume apo ekei.... siga.. 23:46 <@Da_Medron> se ligo 8a patentaroun kai to white->black gradient kai 8a gamh8oume kai emeis oi grafistes :) 23:46 <@Nuclear> zaf: ola kyndinevoun kai kyndinevan, oxi mono to linux... me to linux pou les to thema einai oti den yparxei eteria apo piso gia na kanoun mynisi kai na paroun fragga... 23:46 <@zafos> lol 23:46 <@zafos> Nuclear : mporeis na kaneis mynhsh se foundation omws 23:47 <@Nuclear> kai genikos kai sto GNU system kanoun eligmous gia na apofygoun patentarismena pramata 23:47 <@Nuclear> px to gzip dimiourgithike epidi to LZW itan patentarismeno 23:48 <@Nuclear> eytixos sti sygekrimeni periptosi brikan kati akoma kalytero pou den itan 23:48 <@Nuclear> alla den tha eise panta toso tyxeros 23:48 <@Nuclear> ta marching cubes posa xronia mas spane ta arxidia ? 23:48 < lompas> kata poion tropo sta spane.. 23:48 <@Nuclear> poios tolmaei na xrisimopoiisei marching cubes se programma pou tha traviksei attention ? 23:49 < lompas> den eida kanena na exei problhma na ta balei se demo h' se allo project akadhmaiko 23:49 <@Nuclear> lompa: ta marching cubes einai patented, den mporeis na to xrisimopoiiseis 23:49 <@Nuclear> xairo poly se demo poios tha sou kanei mynisi 23:49 < j_O_k_E_R> ta marching cubes einai patented? 23:49 <@Nuclear> joker: fysika 23:49 < lompas> e gine prwta software entereureneur kai meta anhsyxeis 23:49 -!- Da_Medron [Da_Medron@ppp1-24.agr.forthnet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout] 23:49 <@Nuclear> joker: stin ellada den exeis provlima mexri stigmis .... giati den eixame patentes stin evropi 23:49 < lompas> proswpika ta bazw kai sto thesis mou kai ston poutso mou 23:49 <@Nuclear> kai oi patentes tis amerikis de mas epireazane 23:50 <@Nuclear> tora omos leei "bend over" 23:50 <@BadSector> lompas: exeis dei paixnidi me marching cubes? 23:50 < j_O_k_E_R> diladi otan egw to xrisimopoiw stin ptixiaki mou??? 23:50 -!- Da_Medron [Da_Medron@ppp1-24.agr.forthnet.gr] has joined #demo-gr 23:50 -!- mode/#demo-gr [+o Da_Medron] by ChanServ 23:50 < lompas> to marching cube se paixnidi ti douleia na kanei akribws.. 23:50 <@Nuclear> joker: e se akadimaiko perivalon ypotheto oti de tha erthoun na sou kanoun mynisi ... oxi oti den mporoun omos 23:51 < j_O_k_E_R> malista 23:51 < j_O_k_E_R> pame na ginoume psarades 23:51 < lompas> e tote ti trwgeste mwre.. 23:51 < lompas> douleuei kaneis edw mesa se dikia tou software etairia ? 23:51 <@Nuclear> lompa: sto ksanaleo ksypna, bres synesthisi tou ti ginete ... simera de douleveis se dikia sou eteria an avrio thes na to kaneis? 23:52 < lompas> kai an aurio thelw na ginw gynaika ti tha kanw.. 23:52 < lompas> as erthei ekeinh h wra kai tha doume 23:52 <@Nuclear> popo eise poly malakas e 23:52 < lompas> pros to paron mathe kai kamia allh texnh btw 23:52 < lompas> egw h esy eisai mizeros 23:52 <@Nuclear> re a gamisou pou tha me peis mizero paliomalaka, KSYPNA 23:52 <@Nuclear> edo ta pramata einai sovara 23:52 < lompas> ma eisai mizeros 23:53 <@Nuclear> stamata na ton paizeis 23:53 < lompas> gmt den ekleisa thn webcam (pou me eides..) 23:54 <@BadSector> pantws egw den nomizw na exw prob. An den asxolh8w me coding, 8a kanw skitsa se kamia efhmerida (exw kai meso :-P) 23:54 < lompas> pantws proswpika den exw kai oute tha exw pote problhma me ola auta 23:54 < lompas> giati ean exw egw tote tha exoun kai POLLOI alloi - pragma pou de ginetai.. opote. 23:54 <@Nuclear> to oti esy den exeis provlima me kati de simainei oti prepei na grapseis to provlima sta arxidia sou 23:55 < lompas> e kai ti thes na kanw , na bgw stous dromous ? 23:55 <@Nuclear> mia arxi tha itan na syniditopoiiseis ti ginete kai na min les malakies, apo kei kai pera mporeis na kaneis polla pragmata 23:56 < lompas> mhn anhsyxeis, diabazw gia auto to thema arketa gia na katalabw oti to exete megalopoihsei ligo 23:56 <@Nuclear> makari na itan opos ta les 23:57 < lompas> e me ton kairo pithanws tha deis oti de tha allajei apolytws tipota sth zwh sou 23:57 < lompas> kai sthn telikh auto einai pou exei shmasi 23:57 < lompas> a 23:57 < lompas> oi kybernhseis kai oi nomothetes den einai TOSO hlithioi na dhmiourgoune nomous 23:57 < [iM]> an deis to himmel uber berlin omws? 23:57 < lompas> gia na periorizoun thn eleutheria ths agoras ... 23:57 < [iM]> tha allaksei tipota 23:57 < [iM]> ? 23:58 <@sivitos> lompas: den ksereis pollous amerikanous e? 23:58 <@Nuclear> sti dikia mou isos oxi, giati kai ego an ola pan opos ta thelo den thelo na exo anamiksi me eteries kai emporiko software outos i allos... alla ayto de simainei oti tha efysixasto 23:58 <@Nuclear> lompa: xa! fallacy ... oi kyberniseis agori mou eksipiretoun ta symferonta ton polyethnikon pou tous sponsoraroun 23:58 <@Nuclear> ti nomizeis, ta dika mou symferonta tha eksipiretisoun? 23:58 <@Nuclear> grammeno me exoun 23:59 < lompas> ma pio symferon exeis... enas aplos katanalwths eisai auth th stigmh 23:59 < lompas> mpes sthn paragwgh kai to janablepoume 23:59 <@Nuclear> i IBM ksereis posa kerdizei apo tis merikes xiliades patentes pou exei ksezoumizontas ton kosmo ? 23:59 <@Nuclear> aytoi kinoun ta nimata, giaytous ginete i nomothesia 23:59 <@Nuclear> nomizeis oti tous endiaferei to koino kalo? ase me emena... gia to koino kalo milame --- Day changed Tue Mar 08 2005 00:00 < lompas> entajei kai mena mou thn spane ola auta, alla den mas afora kai TOSO amesa oso to parousiazeis 00:00 < lompas> sth lista me tis protaireothtes einai poly pisw proswpika 00:00 <@sivitos> 1) Take over the world 00:00 <@sivitos> 2) ... 00:01 <@Nuclear> etsi kai oi amerikanoi, tis eleytheries tous tis exoun arketa piso stin lista, giayto exoun katantisei etsi... mas aksizei na ginoume san kiatytous mou fainete 00:01 < lompas> gia poies eleutheries milas, giati auto pou syzhtame twra den exei kai toso sxesh me 'eleutheria' 00:02 -!- |0c0`aW [bnbuser@83.174.136.75] has joined #demo-gr 00:02 -!- |0c0`aW [bnbuser@83.174.136.75] has left #demo-gr [] 00:02 <@Nuclear> nomizeis, otan eise ypoxirio tis IBM kai den mporeis na kaneis tipota fovomenos oti tha sou bgalei tin patenta sti mapa kai tha sou pei ta leyta sou i ti zoi sou, meta tha deis posi eleytheria exeis 00:03 < lompas> nai to amerikaniko koino (h' to opoiodhpote koino ston ypoloipo kosmo), auto to zhthma to kaiei.. 00:03 < lompas> h patenta sto software einai dhladh to xarakthristiko ths 'eleutherias' enws laou h oxi.. 00:04 < lompas> fucking slashdot niggers 00:04 <@Nuclear> milousa genika basika gia tis eleytheries pou paradidoun kathimerina oi amerikanoi ypo tin tromokratia tis kybernisis tous, san paralilizmo to ethesa kyrios min kolas ekei. 00:05 <@Nuclear> telospanton den exei noima na to syzitame tora asto 00:05 < lompas> kathe xwra exei kai diaforetikh morfh 'eleutherias' , analoga me thn istoria/koultoura ths klp 00:05 < lompas> h amerikh p.x. exei alles eleutheries apo thn ellada 00:05 < lompas> h' apo thn agglia k.o.k. 00:05 < lompas> den einai 'aneleutherh' xwra per se.. to idio gia oles tis xwres panw katw (me liges ejaireseis) 00:05 <@Nuclear> i ameriki odevei me mathimatiki akrivia se apolytarxiko kathestos 00:06 < lompas> mpa oxi 00:06 <@Nuclear> exeis dei ti dynameis exoun dosei se dynamis katastolis epidi fovounte tin "tromokratia" ? 00:06 <@Nuclear> mporoun na se mpaglarosoun se ena ypogeio kai na se anakrinoun mystika... 00:06 <@Nuclear> mporoun na sou kanoun erevna xoris entalma 00:06 < lompas> nai enw sthn ellada de to kanoun auto pote.. 00:06 <@Nuclear> mporoun na se kratisoun epapeiro xoris diki 00:06 < lompas> kai etsi ki alliws, auto pio pososto tou laou afora.. 00:07 <@Nuclear> kai ola ayta me tin yponeia gia tromokratia 00:07 <@sivitos> Nuclear: sthn ellada mporoun na se mazepsoun epeidh den exeis tautothta mazi sou 00:07 <@Nuclear> pio pososto tou lao afoura !?!?!? ma ti les! 00:07 < lompas> ti pososto exoun mpaglarwsei se kelia xwris dikes klp 00:07 <@Nuclear> siv: e den einai to idio, symfono einai aparadekto kai ayto, alla einai safos periorismeno stin ellada mporoun na se kratisoun ena brady sto mpountroumi gia eksakrivosi meta prepei na se afisoun 00:08 < lompas> milame gia 300 million laou e 00:08 <@Nuclear> re sy lompa, an *mporoun* nomima na to kanoun, to pososto exei simasia ? 00:08 <@Nuclear> milame gia aneleythero kathestos 00:08 < lompas> den mporoun na to kanoun monima 00:08 <@Nuclear> nomima eipa 00:08 < lompas> den einai nomimo auto pou les.. aplws se orismenes periptwseis kleinoun ta matia 00:08 <@Nuclear> me tin boula pos to lene 00:09 < lompas> h amerikh exei syntagma, to opoio sou leei oti theleis dikhgoro klp 00:09 < lompas> o,ti allo DEN einai nomimo 00:09 < lompas> kai an ginetai, ginetai se kamia kouba .. 00:09 <@Nuclear> oxi agori mou, etsi itan palia isos... *nomima* KATARGOUNTE ayta tou syntagmatos an exeis yponeia gia tromokratiki energeia... 00:09 <@Nuclear> ayta den ta akouses einai teleytaies ekselikseis, ta teleytaia xronia ginane 00:09 < lompas> auto pou les mporei na ginei opoudhpote. 00:09 < lompas> kai edw, kai sthnellada, pantou 00:10 < lompas> de shmainei oti exoun 'apolytarxia'.. 00:10 <@Nuclear> kala ase me ysixo den katalabeneis 00:10 < lompas> tha elega oti apo ola ta krath h amerikh mallon pio dyskola tha pesei sto xaos 00:10 < lompas> prwta h ellada kai meta h hpa pantws.. 00:10 <@Nuclear> tha to deis ayto an synexisei etsi 00:10 < lompas> (pragma kai pou egine prosfatws me th xounta px.. pote egine kati tetoio istorika sthn amerikh) 00:11 <@Nuclear> pote den egine... fysika... tora etoimo na ginei einai 00:11 <@Nuclear> oi amerikanoi einai poly zoa kai poly tromokratimenoi apo tin propaganta tou bush gia na katalaboun ti tous perimenei 00:11 <@Nuclear> kai opoios katalabenei ton len antiamerikano i "komounisti" :) 00:11 <@Nuclear> tromokrati 00:12 < lompas> mallon tous exeis omadopoihsei olous tous amerikanous.Oloi se ena kouti 'hlithioi pou tous propagandizoun'.. 00:12 -!- jObo [w00t@ppp5-adsl-157.the.forthnet.gr] has joined #demo-gr 00:12 -!- mode/#demo-gr [+o jObo] by ChanServ 00:12 < lompas> oi amerikanoi einai ikanoi gia to kalytero kai to xeirotero.. se terasties posothtes both 00:12 <@Nuclear> den einai oloi, oi perisoteroi tin trone omos 00:12 -!- mode/#demo-gr [+oooo [iM] gaghiel j_O_k_E_R lompas] by jObo 00:12 <@Nuclear> giati tous tromokratoun 00:12 <@jObo> spera 00:12 <@Nuclear> den ksereis ti sou einai i propaganda 00:12 <@Nuclear> bgenei o bush kai tous leei gia tromokrates alkaides klp kai xezonte ... nai lene parte merikes eleytheries akoma gia na mas kratisete asfaleis 00:13 <@Nuclear> sou leo i ameriki se liga xronia tha einai xounta 00:13 <@lompas> me tipota 00:13 <@Nuclear> kaloston jobo 00:15 <@lompas> o SYBEX tha ginei o neos diktatoras 00:15 <@jObo> o sybex? diktaktoras? what the hell? 00:15 <@lompas> tha apagoreutei meta opoiodhpote animation panw apo 10fps 00:16 <@lompas> kai xwris negative filtro 00:16 <@sivitos> Nuclear: an eixe pesei boeing ston pyrgo ton athinwn 00:16 <@sivitos> Nuclear: oi ellhnares tha xan kleisei ta synora kai tha xan sfaksei opoion afganoferne 00:16 <@sivitos> Nuclear: kai meta xounta (pali) 00:16 <@Nuclear> xaaxaxaxxaxaxaaxxaax 00:16 <@sivitos> (xounta as in stratiwtiko kathestos) 00:16 <@Nuclear> den diafono, isos 00:17 <@sivitos> opote MHN les oti oi amerikanoi einai ypervolikoi 00:17 <@BadSector> to ena den anairei to allo 00:17 <@Nuclear> kai epidi isos kaname kai emeis to idio simainei oti einai sosto ? 00:17 <@sivitos> esy zeis se sxetika perioxh 00:17 <@Nuclear> den einai katakriteo ? 00:17 <@Nuclear> den einai aneleythero ? 00:17 <@sivitos> kai pali symfwneis oti to parapanw den einai TOSO epistimonikh fantasia 00:17 <@sivitos> skepsou na meneis se ena megalo nhsi 00:18 <@sivitos> me 2 wkeanous na se peritrigyrizoun 00:18 <@sivitos> kai ksafnika 00:18 <@sivitos> na sou fernoun ton polemo sou sto saloni 00:18 <@Nuclear> symfono mazi sou eimai 00:18 <@lompas> kai pali kala to xeiristikan pisteuw.. 00:18 <@Nuclear> ayto pou les den antikrouei oti eipa 00:18 <@Nuclear> isa isa to endynamonei 00:19 <@Da_Medron> afhste tis xazomares kai diavaste kati sovaro apo tom's hardware re.. : http://www.tomshardware.com/game/200502191/index.html 00:19 <@sivitos> Nuclear: ti endynamonei re? esy aporeis pou oi amerikanoi dwsan to eleuthero sthn kyvernhsh 00:19 <@Nuclear> den aporo, to tonizo 00:19 <@sivitos> Nuclear: kai kwlo tha dinan ama xreiastei 00:19 <@Nuclear> kai leo oti me ayto to rythmo tha ginoun xounta 00:19 <@lompas> xounta kai praktika na peis 00:19 <@lompas> pws tha ginoun, otan o stratos yposthrizei thn kybernhsh 00:19 <@lompas> kai vice-versa 00:20 <@lompas> etsi ginontai oi xountes ? opws oi katalhpseis sta TEI ? 00:20 <@lompas> edw den egine otan epese o nixon... me polemo vietnam klp.. 00:21 <@Nuclear> ma tote itan ypsilo to aisthima eleytherias, ginotan diadiloseis anti-war klp ... edo sou leo paradinoun ti mia eleytheria meta tin alli aklafti 00:21 <@lompas> orejh eixan oi amerikanoi na xasoun thn bolh tous kai ta agatha pou apolambanoun apo th dynath tous oikonomia.. gia na bgoun stous dromous gia kati pou kaneis de jerei akomh ti einai 00:22 <@lompas> oso anti-war ginotan tote, allo toso, kai isws parapanw, ginetai kai twra 00:22 <@zafos> ignorance is bliss 00:22 <@sivitos> telika exei gelio 00:22 <@sivitos> einai san na vlepw debate sthn tv gia tis tautothtes 00:23 <@zafos> hahaha 00:23 <@zafos> re mlk siv 00:23 <@zafos> peta kamia paravolh 00:23 <@zafos> ti ka8esai ? 00:24 <@sivitos> zafos: den exei nohma 00:24 <@sivitos> zafos: kai mono pou eida ton nuclear na petaei ataka <> 00:24 <@sivitos> mou ftiakse th mera 00:24 <@zafos> re mlk tis mazevw na kanw vivlio 00:24 <@sivitos> th dekaetia isws 00:24 <@zafos> mh me poulas etsi 00:25 <@zafos> akouw simhth apo synedrio pasok 00:25 <@zafos> dinei recital sardam 8eos 00:26 <@Nuclear> siv: to provlima einai oti simera eipa merika sovara pramata, xairome an sou eytiaksa ti mera alla i dikia mou den eytiakse katholou 00:26 <@lompas> ela mwre, yparxoun kai alla pragmata sth zwh 00:26 <@lompas> de xairesai pou eisai zwntanos.. 00:26 <@zafos> e kala ama exoume katanthsei na xairomaste kai giafto eleos 00:27 <@lompas> ama blepeis kathe mera mellothanatous omws.. 00:27 <@sivitos> Nuclear: eutixos h distixos (distixos) apodeixtike oti to orgh laou fwnh theou metraei mono san synthima se omilia tou andrikou 00:28 <@BadSector> Da_Medron: f8hnos C64 e? Malista. Anarwtiemai ti hardware mods 8a kanoyn merikoi gi'ayto :-) 00:28 <@Nuclear> siv: true 00:28 <@sivitos> Nuclear: o lompas exei dikio. kopanitheis den kopanitheis den kaneis karriera. DEN eisai lobbyist DEN eisai diaplekwmenos 00:29 <@Nuclear> den ksero ti les gia lobbyists kai diaplekomenous ego ayto pou katalaba apo ayta pou eipe o lompas einai oti epidi emena den me xtypaei amesa ta grafo sta arxidia mou 00:29 <@Nuclear> den paei etsi 00:30 <@lompas> e mh bgaleis kai karkino apo to agxos.. sto eipa mpas kai xalarwseis ligo 00:30 <@lompas> :-) 00:30 -!- Da_Medron [Da_Medron@ppp1-24.agr.forthnet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout] 00:30 <@Nuclear> karkino de bgazo, alla ligo tha agxotho me ayto an einai na agxotho me kati 00:31 <@lompas> e ligo nomizw oloi tha agxwthoume.. alla pio poly gia akadhmaiko logo 00:31 <@sivitos> Nuclear: ola ta provlhmata sou einai lymmena e?